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Koji-San · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject:

Gwen... you say... Musashi?

If it's Miyamoto Musashi, we will have to stop speaking Twisted Evil

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Gwenny · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject:

in that case....*waves goodbye*
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Koji-San · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:31 pm Post subject:

Damn, He's responsible for the death of one of my favourite persons in history

The person my name

and my lifes writing is based on

Kojiro Sasaki
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Gwenny · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject:

I had a strong feeling that was who yer name was tied into just didnt want to ask
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Koji-San · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject:

Yeah
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Gwenny · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:17 pm Post subject:

I am sorry Musashi did that to your hero, ofc he has quite a list off the ones he has defeated before Sasaki...
It is unfortunate there are so many different stories of what exactly happened. To much speculation not enough fact.

But I like his writings a lot, have helped me throughout life...
have read the book of five rings multiple times now.
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Viciousy · Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 13 Location: Pacific Northwest

either of you read Vagabond?

Gwenny · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:18 pm Post subject:

You mean this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagabond_(manga) (gotta copy the url since tags will not work because of the brackets)

Haven't read it....is it worth it?
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Cescoo · Royal Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Posts: 32 Location: Peru

The five colours blind the eye.
The five tones deafen the ear.
The five flavours dull the taste.
Racing and hunting madden the mind.
Precious things lead one astray.

Look, it cannot be seen - it is beyond form.
Listen, it cannot be heard - it is beyond sound.
Grasp, it cannot be held - it is intangible.
These three are indefinable, they are one.

From above it is not bright;
From below it is not dark:
Unbroken thread beyond description.
It returns to nothingness.
Form of the formless,
Image of the imageless,
It is called indefinable and beyond imagination.

Stand before it - there is no beginning.
Follow it and there is no end.

One of the first religions i first followed, and it's not christianism....
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Gwenny · Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:25 am Post subject:

Very nice Cesco! even though I already had a chance to read it before you posted it here, I still wanted to say that.

Makes me want to go to the bookstore and pick up some new reading material...
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Koji-San · Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:47 am Post subject:

Hmm, indeed, I'm... disappointed, as you say, there is much speculation as to what happened, I'm a strong believer of Sasaki being blinded by the sun, and Miyamoto took advantage of this.

I admire Kojirō, his, mastery of the Nodachi was unparalleled. His Nodachi in particular was a beautiful sword "Monohoshi Zao" Or, The Drying Pole. And of course his technique, "Tsubame Gaeshi". the Turning Swallow Cut.

I'm disappointed Kojirō fell to the likes of Musashi, and that the information is scarce. I have, through curiosity read Musashi's works. And they are somewhat engaging, It was rumoured that Sasaki Kojirō was one of the most challenging people he ever faced.

Despite me being 16. One thing I CAN do is strategise, I've read the words of many famous men, strategists and warriors. And have been told I possess the Finesse to plan things effectively. In all honesty, I wish I could've had a chance, to try becoming a known strategist. But the time of true strategy is long dead in my eyes. But the words of those men still ring true to me. And I think it does to alot of people
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Viktorius · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:25 am Post subject:

Koji-San · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:49 pm Post subject:

I'd love it if you could tell what you said just then Vik, It seems to me, That the numbers were indeed smaller, but it took more than just a guy and a few friends.

Ieyasu's Shogunate is one of the most well done.

The Oda family are also well know. And the Toyotomi, they either Ruled, or fought to rule.

"The Inexperience of a leader, is reflected in his subordinates" - Ieyasu Tokugawa, facing off with the Mighty Shingen Takeda and his Takeda Cavalry.

Men like this could do even better with larger armies, but the fact they could do it with smaller armies. Makes it all the more impressive.
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Viktorius · Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:15 am Post subject:

sorry for my late response,
I have been quite busy at work

My point is that is much easier to control a smaller group of people than it is to control a larger group of people. Especially on a relatively small piece of land which is secluded from external influences. This doesnt have to be an Island. Look into the history of Rwanda, which also is difficult to influence from the outside due to geographic circumstances. You can see similiarities in their code of honour, xenofobia and (almost divine/mythological) history with those of Japan. This geography leads to cultural monotony in which it is easier to understand your enemy (and your friends).

When your strategic skills are put to the test in a more open environment where different cultural aspects of friend and foe play part, you have more problems to overcome. As an example (I know shouldnt be in this thread, but I needed an example): it took the West 4 years of fighting insurgency in Iraq to start to understand that Iraqi's think in other ways then westerners. (and after that acknowledgement now the west tries to find out what that way is and how the West's conduct in that "different" environment is best put to achieve the wanted goals)

When you live on a relatively small island, geography, climate and common history create a culture where most ppl tend to think in about the same lines and also the available means are known (f.e. there is a limited number of sorts trees to use in making weapons, resulting in a limited, and thus easier to understand, number of sorts of weapons).

This all makes it easier to create a strategic plan, coz there are less factors of importance to take into account.

hope this wasnt too much :(
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